Parents and PCC express concerns to Berkshire

About two dozen residents took advantage of the open forum with school audit team Berkshire Advisors on Tuesday evening, with parents stressing value and qualitative factors, and members of the PCC continuing their campaign to plant doubts about the study. Town Councilor Karen Gleason chaired the session, conducted by Mike Walker of Berkshire, who thoughtfully responded to questions and took copious notes during the two-hour session. Rep. Amy Rice was there as well.

Parent Diane Brown was one of several who urged Berkshire to carefully consider the impact of any cuts, lamenting the loss of the gifted and talented program. "It's the caliber of this community that's represented by these schools," she said, adding that Portsmouth's kids need to be competitive not just within America, but globally. "We need to raise the bar."

Most of the parents who spoke voiced similar concerns. Joe Raposa described how his son had been helped by the school department's early testing and intervention. "He's why Individualized Education Plans (IEPs) were developed," said Raposa. He said his son had wanted to be there to thank the schools in person, but he added proudly, "he's at Stonehill College."

Debbie Oliveira echoed the sentiment, that her three kids have "all great teachers, and all great schools." She praised the work of the folks in the department. "Each year, the teachers have to do more and more with less and less. It's frustrating as a parent to see every expenditure questioned."

When I hear stories like this, it makes it really hard for me to objectively report on the lackeys of the grocer's machine who take the mike to plant uncertainty and nitpick.

Jeff Richard came to the podium with a series of questions about the areas Berkshire is examining. Were they looking at teacher selection and evaluation? At the numbers for home schooling, which might indicate "a lack of confidence" in the schools. How about the number of children who go to private schools. Another confidence issue? And look at the Chamber of Commerce study. Rhode Island schools consistently got "D's and F's."

An aside on tactics. Notice, Richard doesn't have evidence that any of these are germane, but what he's accomplished by putting this out in a public forum is to make this an issue that Berkshire or the schools now have to expend energy to either investigate or disprove. This is the nature of our asymmetrical conflict with the PCC. School supporters need to be perfect: every undefended attack is a point lost. The PCC, on the other hand, with the bravery of being out of range, gets to lob a dozen questions, as Richard did, and then declare victory if even one of them cannot be rebuffed. By forcing school supporters into a prevent (or no-doubles, if you prefer) defense they control the agenda.

For example, consider the oft-cited Chamber of Commerce study. There are serious methodological issues with how they decided to give Rhode Island "Ds and Fs." Here's how the study authors describe the process:

"To grade each state, we first created a NAEP index by averaging the percentage of 4th and 8th grade students scoring at or above the proficient level on math and reading on NAEP in 2005. We then distributed grades based on a curve: The top 10 states received As, the next 10 states received Bs, and so forth."
Leaders and Laggards, p. 64

You like being graded on a curve? Or arbitrary 10-state cutoffs to force an A-F distribution? Is that fair? No. But Richard doesn't have to be concerned about fairness. He gets to put this out there on their PCC-TV show (this was one non-Town-Council meeting they chose to tape, surprise surprise) and it's on the record, uncontested.

PCC, Inc. Vice-President Joe Lorenz used a similar strategy, drilling down on a "survey" that was sent to school department employees. He asked why it hadn't been sent to him or his wife ("a kindergarten teacher") arguing that Berkshire might "learn something from people outside." Walker had to patiently explain that the survey related to the internals of the district, like how long it takes to respond to a maintenance request, which it was unlikely outsiders would have an informed opinion about. But Lorenz and other PCCers harped on this line of questioning, to the point where I actually had to get up and ask Walker directly about the focus groups which had been conducted at all the schools to solicit public input, just to get it on the record.

And take Tailgunner Gleason. She used her time on-camera to pat herself on the back for coming up with locking building doors and using buzzers. "Safety and well being" was a priority for her. (This coming from someone who wanted to cut nurses and guidance counselors at the elementary schools, but I digress.) Then she lobbed yet another unsupported accusation: "There are kids from other districts that are here without permission." Does Ms. Gleason have evidence of this? Let's see it.

But I'm going to give the last words to the school supporters. Chris Carceller, who urged Berkshire not to recommend cuts to any more programs, saying, "This town does not want an average school system." Mary Short, who noted how changes caused by budget cuts, like shortening building hours, had reduced the time teachers had to runoff papers at the end of the day. "Any change you make affects everybody," she stressed. Marianne Raymo, who is one of the leaders of the Portsmouth United effort to bring all the parent-teacher organizations under one nonprofit umbrella, was blunt: "Extracurriculars happen because of parents. Parents get charged a lot of user fees."

I have to point out that at this juncture, Tailgunner interrupted Ms. Raymo. "Do you have a question?" "I'm sorry," replied Raymo. "I thought we were up here speaking." For the record, Gleason never said "boo" to any of the PCC speechifying. Just another thing to remember come election time.

Parent Diane Brown urged greater communication, and hoped that the school department could leverage some of the parental energy on display at the meeting. "I want to see their voices result in action," she said.

Comments

...But what if, instead of cutting students programs, cuts are made on the salaries and benefits of the faculty? Why is it every time a cut is made to education, the cuts are made to the students programs? Band and art is always threatened to be put on the chopping block, and it's always the kids who have to lose something, but never the faculty? Is that fair? Shouldn't the burden be place equally on everybodies shoulders? Preferably if the burden is placed more equally on one side so you can avoid tapping the money set aside for the kids. I might be accused of punishing the teachers, but the way I see it, a good teacher, who is there because he/she wants to teach and be a role for the kids would say, "If a pay cut means I'll have more to work with so I can educate these kids more effectively, take as much as you like".
Just my two cents.

Hi, BainofMcDaid...
Would you ask members of any other profession to take a pay cut? Would you argue that if the police department really cared about the community that they should work for less?

The rhetoric of "good teachers who are there because they want to teach" is fundamentally saying that teaching is not a real job, and that teachers don't deserve to be paid fairly.

We do not live in a socialist society. People are paid for the work they do. Next time you go to your doctor, ask her or him if they'll take less money.

You don't think so? Then why ask it of teachers. Show some respect for professionals with advanced degrees who work long hours, go way beyond what is in their contract, and take nothing but grief from penny-pinching critics. Seriously. Would you make this argument about firefighters?

Best,
-j

Dear BainofMcDaid:

You suggest teachers take a pay cut so there will be more "money set aside for the kids", as you put it.

Reality check: THERE IS NO MONEY SET ASIDE FOR THE KIDS. This is a false notion often repeated. The usual formulation goes like this, "I'd like to see less money spent on teacher salaries and more money spent on the kids." Well -- THERE IS NO MONEY SPENT ON THE KIDS. ZERO. ZIP. NADA.

The business of education is the provision of a service. People (who earn salaries) provide that service. Taken to the extreme, zero teacher salaries will equal zero education. There is no magic widget called "education" that we spend money on to give to children. Rather, we spend money ON PEOPLE -- TEACHERS -- who then educate the kids.

During the life of my career, I've worked in and around the Naval Undersea Warfare Center. I've gotten to know a great number of highly intelligent and educated scientists and engineers. Many of them have lamented to me that they would love to be able to teach.

You talk about a "a good teacher, who is there because he/she wants to teach." Well, these people would love to teach and would make great teachers. If you ask them why they don't teach, the answer is: Money.

I don't know what world you live in, BainofMcDaid, but the world the rest of us live in is a world with home mortgages and soaring gas prices and food prices and frighteningly staggering college tuition looming on the horizon. Not to mention, federal income taxes, social security taxes and medicare taxes.

Sure, there will always be a very small number of people who take a low paying job because they love it. But most people factor in the economics of life.

Your suggestion will indeed be unpopular, but only because it is uninformed. In the real world, people work for a living.

I really hope you will agree with me. I'm not a good at teaching (it's not my job), but I really hope I've taught you that there is no such thing as money "spent on the kids". It is money spent on service providers. Always. Less money spent on service providers will equal less services provided. It is a law of economics.

Oh, Bain, Bain. To avoid spewing bile, I will keep this short a sweet. I started out my professional life as a teacher, but left the profession because I couldn't afford to live on the salary. I returned to teaching in 2002 because I loved it. I still love it. I feel honored to be able to teach, and to work side-by-side with my colleagues.

Prior to teaching, I was a marketing consultant. I have an MBA from the Wharton School of Business (many of my classmates went to work with Bain Consluting Group -- maybe you know them), in addition to two teaching degrees. To return to teaching required that I take about a 40% cut in salary. My benefits are now MUCH worse. And the working conditions are laughable by comparison (no client lunches, no limos after working late). I do get to travel less. Many who hold that teacher salaries are too high are shocked by my decision or find it foolish.

I understand that most teachers do not have my credentials or experience. But I also understand that I -- or any of my well-educated, hardworking, intelligent colleagues -- could earn much more in the private sector. We have already taken a pay cut. We have already sacrificed because we love our profession. And it gets incredibly tiresome listening to boneheads like you who just don't get that.

"but the way I see it, a good teacher, who is there because he/she wants to teach and be a role for the kids would say, "If a pay cut means I'll have more to work with so I can educate these kids more effectively, take as much as you like". - BainofMcDaid

I almost threw up after reading that gem. For fear of being repetitive, I'll just go ahead and refer to you John's reply, but you, sir/ms., are a complete idiot.

I was shocked when I read that she chaired this meeting!

This was a public comment forum by Berkshire Advisors. It was not a town council meeting or anything else that would allow Gleason the authority to be the arbiter of who got to speak. This from the woman who complained about elected officials being on the liaison committee. I guess her real complaint is that she wants to be in charge.

I still can't believe it! Who allowed her to take over this meeting. I bet there were members of the public who would have spoken to the Berkshire guy but were intimidated by Gleason acting as some sort of moderator. And on top of all that you tell us she interrupted a citizen speaker????!!!! The nerve!

She should be called on the carpet for barging in to Berkshire's meeting and acting like she's in charge. Shame on her!